Vine Sprague, 2d.

1772 - 1813  (40 years)

• Name	Vine Sprague
  Suffix	2d.
  Born	20 Aug 1772	Windham, Windham Co., CT, USA   [1]
  Gender	Male
  Residence	1800	Florida, Orange Co., NY, USA   [2]
  Died	11 May 1813	Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA   [1, 3]
  Buried	Prospect Hill Cemetery, Gloversville, Fulton Co., NY, USA   [4]
  Notes	"Sprague Families in America", by Dr. Warren VincentSprague, page 42 Vine Sprague went to Hartford, VT and later toMayfield or Gloversville, NY. "Supplement to Sprague Families in America", by Dr. WarrenVincent Sprague, 1941, page 38. Vine and Mary (Sherwin) Sprague died withing about twoweeks of each other on their Mayfield farm, in the epidemicthat devastated so many New England families in 1813. Theyleft behind eight children, the oldest, Irene, 19 and theyoungest, Mary, one year of age. The sons Horace andFlavel, later caused their bodies to be exhumed and buriedin the Sprague lot in the Gloversville Cemetery, anderected the headstones now standing. For a year after the death of the parents the care ofthe children fell upon Irene and thereafter they were"farmed out" to different homes. Flavel and Mary werebrought up by a Quaker family named Wood, in Gloversville.The lives of Horace, Flavel and Lyman were practicallyspent in Gloversville and environs, while Irene, Harriet,John, Vine and Mary went West. The meager vital records of the community weredestroyed by fire about 1877, so there are many pointsunsettled. It is not known when Vine and his brothersElkanah, Jr., and Roger removed from Hartford, VT toMontgomery (now Fulton) County. The date of Vine's deathgiven in the text of "Sprague Families in America", by Dr.Warren Vincent Sprague, on page 42 as 1805 is incorrect. From Ralph Sprague, correspondent, note of February 28th,2005 You may recall that when I first contacted you a fewyears back you kindly sent me some data you had on JohnSpragues in your database. John, the son of Vine Spragueand Mary Sherwin is, we think our 3rd great-grandfather. Sofar we’ve been unable to prove that and it a source offrustration for Marion and me. Of course our hypothesisdoesn’t square with the story for “Sprague Families inAmerica”, which has John married to a Beecher woman andliving to a ripe old age in Fulton county, NY. We on theother had haven’t been able to find any proof of marriage,births or deaths that would definitively tie in John as ourancestor. What we do have though is evidence that confirmsa related story in “Sprague Families in America”. That is,when Vine and Mary died, probably of typhus within a coupleof weeks of one another, their older daughter Irene tooksome of the other siblings under her wing and “went west”(Western NY I find). In the late 1820s, the 1830 census andthe 1835 state census I’ve found Irene’s family (EzraCurtis), her sister Harriet’s family (William (aka Ezra)Dascomb), Vine Sprague Jr. and his family and by 1830 myapparently widowed 3rd great-grandmother (Matilda Coe) andher two sons living in very close proximity in Orleanscounty and then Chautauqua county New York.Where I’m at today with this challenge is that I’ve foundthat the Holland Land Company account books (on microfilmat the LDS) has accounts for Dascomb, Curtis and VineSprague and one for a “Curtis – Sprague”. Apparently the“notes” signed by the debtors are only available on film atSUNY at Fredonia. From Richard E. (Dick) Fricke, correspondent (note of June17th, 2002) Genealogical Records: New York, 1675-1920 > Sprague, Vine > Event: Lived in: 1800 > Place: Florida County: Orange> Source: Reel 24, 1800 Federal Census of New York,Microfilm Series M32 > Publisher: National Archives, Washington, DC.> Additional Information: See Family History Library, inSalt Lake City, > Utah. > Page: 116 Province: New York [2, 5] (Research):From Ralph D. Sprague, correspondent, note of November 10,2017 Our Vine Sprague (23498) is the same as ID 38687. Our viewis that Dr. Sprague either got it wrong or was incompletewhen documenting the family of Vine Sprague. He is veryvague about where the other children of Vine and MarySherwin went. We contend that in 1830 they were all inOrleans, NY and the widow of John Sprague (Matilda) wasnear them. Another alternative may be that Vine had another child whomarried Matilda Coe or that one of John Sprague's brothershad a second wife. BMD records from New York would have been helpful. This iscompounded by the fact that there is no death certificatein Minnesota for my great-great grandfather Horace Sprague(son of Matilda and John). Response from Richard E. Weber, Sprague Project Developer,note of November 10, 2017 Ralph, thank you for your very interesting note. Irecently asked Jane Sanderman Mason to look at this familyto help establish if John Sprague (I23497) and John W. Sprague (I41193) were one and the sameperson. The circumstantial evidence caused us to concludeit possible that they were the same individual but we foundno genealogically sound proof of that fact. I know that you've studied this situation for many yearsbecause it is part of your mysterious ancestry. Whatevidence have you found that proves the two John's (andthus the two Vines) are one and the same? Response from Ralph D. Sprague, note of November 10, 2017 I've often thought of hiring a genealogist in New Yorkstate to get on this but I suspect he/she may not get muchfurther than we have. By we I mean mostly Marion Sim. The info we have is very circumstantial. · Dr. Sprague's oeuvre covers Irene and HoraceSprague, children of Vine Sr. After the premature deathsof Vine Sr. and Mary about 1813 Dr. Sprague says if Irecall correctly "the others went west". Well Barre,Orleans, NY is west of where the family was. In the 1830 UScensus for that area, in Barre we find others of Vine Sr.'children, Lyman, Vine Jr., Harriet Sprague Curtis andMatilda Sprague (widow). I think perhaps Mary was there aswell. · In the 1930's (I don't have the detail) a Curtisdescendent recorded the marriage of John Sprague andMatilda Coe in the LDS files, No idea what his proof was. · John and Matilda's son Horace and his wife settledin Illinois in the late 1840's. A Benjm. Curtis settled inthe same area. He would have been a cousin. · We believe that about 1820 John Sprague was friendswith Matilda's older brother Noble Coe. · Finally, Horace's son Bill, our great-grandfatherhad Sherwin as a middle name. ZAs in the last name of MarySherwin the wife of Vine Sr. All very circumstantial. My guess is that John Sprague died after 1825 and before1830 in Barre. Perhaps a canal laborer who picked up adisease. That disease might have carried off the other sonas well.
  Person ID	I38687	Sprague Project
  Last Modified	9 Nov 2019

  
  

  Father	Capt. Elkanah Sprague, Sr.,   b. 25 Jan 1732/33, Lebanon, New London Co., CT, USA ,   d. Abt 1805, Hartland, Windsor Co., VT, USA  (Age 71 years)
  Mother	Mehitable Moulton,   b. Bef 19 Aug 1733, prob. Ipswich, Essex Co., MA, USA ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Married	9 Dec 1754	Windham, Windham Co., CT, USA   [2, 6]
  Family ID	F6802	Family Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family / Spouse	Mary Sherwin,   b. 23 Nov 1768, Rindge, Cheshire Co., NH, USA ,   d. 2 Apr 1813, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA  (Age 44 years)
  Married	1793	Reading, Windsor Co., VT, USA   [4]
  Children	+ 1. Irene Sprague,   b. 5 Sep 1794, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 25 May 1868, Perry, Lake Co., OH, USA  (Age 73 years) + 2. Horace Sprague,   b. 1 Aug 1796, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 21 May 1860, Gloversville, Fulton Co., NY, USA  (Age 63 years) + 3. Vine Sprague, Jr.,   b. 1797, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. Yes, date unknown + 4. John Sprague,   b. 1798, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. Bef 1830  (Age 31 years) + 5. John W. Sprague,   b. 1798, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 1884, Osborne Bridge, Fulton Co., NY, USA  (Age 86 years) + 6. Flavel Bartlett Sprague,   b. 1 Jun 1801, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 1875, Gloversville, Fulton Co., NY, USA  (Age 73 years) + 7. Harriet S. Sprague,   b. 22 Feb 1803, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 1877, Madison, Lake Co., OH, USA  (Age 73 years)   8. Lyman Sprague,   b. 27 Oct 1806, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. Yes, date unknown   9. Mary Sprague,   b. 2 Jul 1810, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 2 Jun 1811, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA  (Age 0 years) + 10. Mary Sprague, 2nd,   b. 5 Feb 1812, Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA ,   d. 5 Feb 1875, Sturgis, St. Joseph Co., MI, USA  (Age 63 years)
  Last Modified	9 Nov 2019
  Family ID	F14688	Family Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map		Born - 20 Aug 1772 - Windham, Windham Co., CT, USA Residence - 1800 - Florida, Orange Co., NY, USA Died - 11 May 1813 - Mayfield, Fulton Co., NY, USA  = Link to Google Earth
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• Sources

  [S69] Book: Sprague Families in America Supplement, Sprague, Dr. Warren Vincent, (Chauncey, Ohio, privately published, 1940), page 38. [S510] Correspondent: Fricke, Dick, note of June 17th, 2002. [S889] Correspondent: Gardner, Vi, "d. of measles". [S20] Correspondent: Sprague, Ralph D. [S20] Correspondent: Sprague, Ralph D., note of February 28th, 2005. [S352] Publication: Sprague Families in America, Sprague, Warren Vincent, (Rutland, Vt: The Tuttle Company, Printer, 1913), "m. December 19th, 1754.", page 25.